The vast armies of the Emperor of Earth have conquered the galaxy in a Great Crusade – the myriad alien races have been smashed by the Emperor’s elite warriors and wiped from the face of history. 2K 264K views 2 years ago Hey everyone! Wolf Lord Rho here!. First, when Guilliman was wounded by Fulgrim, Emperor literally pulls Guilliman out of the Warp, keeping him alive long enough to be put into stasis. There was no promise. When the Emperor appears to Magnus during the Siege, He projects into Magnus’ mind as a glowing sun-god and they burn through the warp together, moving through billions of years in moments. ‘He may ambush you,’ said Andros. Lion fought Chaos at Caliban and Sang fought and died on Terra. ’ ‘Guilliman. Sure, Guilliman is likely to turn the leadership of Nurceria to newly educated, non-violent ex-slaves while offering Angron a place if he want to deal with bureaucracy. Credits:Rowboat Girlyman art by Adrián Prado: Divina by Rhapsody of FireAnci. Business, Economics, and Finance. 7. He is less certain whether the same remains true in 40k, but ultimately decides that it does. Both the Emperor and Malcador hint that Guilliman was their back up and they intended for him to take over should the Emperor be lost. What horrors you have endured, I cannot imagine. The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. After some time, the boy receives visions of the future, one. Then, the way he coalesces different versions of himself from across the galaxy so that he can have a coherent enough mind and personality to speak with Guilliman - I didn't specifically imagine it this way but it made perfect sense. I believe this excerpt from Dawn of Fire: The Gate of Bones gives the clearest answer we've had so far. The Emperor is not infallible, nor am I. Guilliman is a Warrior King Statesman there to stabilize the Empire and stop (or slow) the rot. ‘Guilliman. Come on now. Guilliman was a rationalist, Lorgar was a quester after metaphysical truths. In the old lore, Horus dropped his shields to lure the Emperor aboard the Vengeful Spirit because his time was up and Guilliman and the XIII were coming. ‘And to you, son of the Emperor of Mankind, my ally, and my enemy. Deng is a really random choice, especially given Guilliman's clear Roman ties. Guilliman was more clinical, considered. "The Emperor was working on a timeline that didn’t have much wiggle room That said, he did tell Land that the Nails were the only thing keeping Angron alive and he couldn’t remove them without killing him, so it’s also possible the the Nails have damaged Angron in a way that prevents the Emperor from fixing him after deathMortarion already had quite a bit to say about the appointment of Horus, imagine adding conflicted loyalties and "local" politics to that as well. He may not have the emperor's strength or intelligence, but he does have the charisma and vision to lead humanity back to the golden age. Eventually, Mortarian and the Death Guard were summoned back to the Scourge Stars, which had come under threat from the War in the Rift. Despite the Emperor absolutely detesting Roboute Guilliman and wanting his life support cut off, in the Gathering Storm event of 40k canon, Guilliman finally awakens and has the exact same horrified and furious reaction to the bottomless cruelty and stupidity of the 41st millennium Imperium as the text-to-speech Emperor did. ‘So my people think he will save them when I cannot?’ Guilliman had asked as he strapped on his ceremonial plate in the Residency’s fitting chamber. Dust-Wonderful • 7 mo. Bare with me because I am only about a third of the way into Dark Imperium so its entirely possible some of these issues will be addressed as the story progresses, but Guilliman appears to be doing the same stupid crap the Emperor did and the Guilliman himself did before he got put in stasis. . Either the Emperor is dead, either he has no longer power to communicate remotely with anyone -which is the same that being dead- either he actually does not care anymore. He also knows that pushing too hard will lead to civil war. The Emperor had access to. Faith was his mode of thought, and Guilliman had disdained it. LOLOLOLOL” I mean, a meme I get, but I seriously think some people genuinely think it’s cannon. I find this hard to believe due to a couple of reasons below. He ascended to sainthood. We’re all waiting for the biggest showdown looming over the future of 40K – Roboutte Guilliman versus Lion El’ Jonson. He did not hear them at all. Szarekh looks at the gouge Guilliman cuts in his arm/chest, looks at his face, and just goes, "Interesting. He remembered so clearly the first time he had seen Guilliman in the Temple of Correction. **. ago. My personal theory is it wasn't the Emperor who possessed Guilliman, but his [Guilliman's] presence in the Warp. ‘Never forget that the Emperor protects. So communication and Travel was more unreliable and harder than normal. There was no hope in this world. The whole practical/theoretical thing isn't what normal people do, because normal people have feelings making up the difference. He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp. The Emperor may have vocalized that Horus was. Fan base takes that and runs all the way to “THEY FUKKED, GUILLIMAN IS A XENO LOVER. So help me, I want to read this in something. The rest of 30k still feels pretty grim. The reason he follows the Emperor closely is because (most of the time) he thinks those two things align. Basically if Guilliman had the time he would and could make the Imperium into a bigger Ultramar. Both the Emperor and Malcador hint that Guilliman was their back up and they intended for him to take over should the Emperor be lost. The plan was 3-fold. In fact that entire section of Roboute Guilliman's fandom page seems to be the entire chapter almost. ‘Father gave you His blade, I see. ‘But the Lord Guilliman is the Emperor’s son, and His appointed deputy, ruling in His stead, so therefore it is reasonable to–’ ‘Appointed by whom?’ said Cehen-qui loudly. Khan hanged up the phone and turned to his family, raising a hand to silence them for a second and wait. He says He’s just pragmatic, as a single weakness would be exploited by the ruinous. Guilliman dies, but the Emperor was using him as a Trojan horse to channel his power, he revives Guilliman now that he’s in the Garden. ‘He is not a god,’ said Guilliman out loud. His actions didn’t change but the meaning of the Emperor and the Imperium did. Achallor had a sudden, chilling insight into why Valoris had chosen Colquan. King Konor of Macragge was my father. Guilliman was loyal to the Imperium while believing the Emperor, a man, had died. The Lion did the same, his whisper full of sorrow. Guy Haley. Guilliman is Justinian. They were things. if any chaos or say xenos dude did the same action with the same ease, in the course of a single book, to the center of. As a father he took time to ride and hunt with his son and teach him what he thought was importent life lessons. ‘We were there together. He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp. [deleted] • 3 yr. and when they’re going to show up. ’. The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. The books are quite enjoyable and brought out some great contradictions between Guilliman and the God-Emperor religion. . But the reality is, his death would get out. ‘What is the purpose you have in mind for me?’ asked Guilliman. Despite the Emperor absolutely detesting Roboute Guilliman and wanting his life support cut off, in the Gathering Storm event of 40k canon, Guilliman finally awakens and has the exact same horrified and furious reaction to the bottomless cruelty and stupidity of the 41st millennium Imperium as the text-to-speech Emperor did. Guilliman stated that his time on the throne made him "lose his subtlety", so instead of seeing the Emperor however he used to see him telling him he was a good boy, he got a painful light accidentally letting slip that he doesn't really care about him as a person. Mighty heroes battle for the right to rule the galaxy. Guilliman- I’m literally a son of the Emperor. ’ Silence. Guilliman is the Emperor’s favorite son. ‘But in your holiness, you did not turn. Didnt Guilliman say something along the lines of that the Emperors humanity is gone? And now hes just simply cold logical and uncaring. Only to discover Big E doesn't love him and only views him as a tool, that's devastating enough but imagine having to lie to the Imperium that. Of us all, I think perhaps only poor Konrad knew, for he too had the power to see the future. He would just do that, not complain. Sure the Ultramarines are still around but none of the ones that were alive millennia ago, when Guilliman was last conscious. That's the 9 loyal Primarchs, all had reasons for staying loyal. Guilliman had already evolved beyond the status of warlord, where Horus was still a killer of worlds and a subjugator of adversaries. By breaking the legion Guilliman wanted to send a message to the other traitor legions that their best could be broken. NONE OF YOU EVER WERE" bit seemed especially hamfisted and everything started to fall apart afterward in terms of the cohesiveness if the writing. A cheap tactic. That he is against the will of the Emperor. He wants to reunite humanity again and destroy the old doctrine of idolatry towards the emperor in order to lead humanity to the right path. And you're right. Guilliman is very painfully aware that he can't simply pick up as 30k intended before everything got twisted, especially when it comes to worshiping the emperor as a god. He's now the Imperium's defender. He didn't want them to be useless in the aftermath, like some Legions were sure to be, looking at you World Eaters and Night Lords. Why can't we understand the Emperor's morals. And the Emperors sword kind of fucks with Chaos being able to come back. So neutral. Magos Lehm, next one. Sorry if this is a bit ignorant but I’m fairly new to the books (etc). 17. ’. C) even if I wanted to kill Guilliman, he managed to outsmart every move the High Lords of Terra made to killing him. 1 more reply. He did not hear them at all. He could have stood up for Lorgar, made a case. "Listen to me, Roboute," the light ghost hisses. Currently Magnus is more potent with the psychic round, but Guilliman's armour's special rules means Guilliman can come back from any death - so tabletop would be interesting. Did the emperor love his primarch sons? In the indometus era Guilliman is said to have contemplated this upon his meeting with the Emperor. Such they had the best toys, deployed all the tactics from just about every legion, had special training so they didn't rely on techmarines/mars, and many of the original Terrans had psychic wards placed on them by Big E himself, making. I could be embellishing but I recall he briefly speaks on each. Dan Abnett put in some excellent irony and foreshadowing in Guilliman's musing in the Unremembered Empire. . With the telling quote, Guilliman doesn't know if the Emperor is a god now or not but if he is, he isn't worth worshiping. The seeming fact that Dorn held this position in Guilliman's stead until essentially the moment Guilliman arrived, at which point Dorn immediately abdicated and Guilliman took up the role, indicates to me that there was a pre-existing understanding of some sort that Guilliman would take the overall reigns in the Emperor's prolonged absence. The Emperor's goal is to uplift humanity into a new Golden Age. He did not hear them at all. There was great warpcraft in the weapon. He was no god when I knew Him, but now…’. Why would Guilliman's political enemies say that the God Emperor ordered Guilliman to nuke an emptied temple-city, when they can say that Guilliman nuked a temple-city of the God Emperor? If they time the announcement right, half the Imperium could be ready to overthrow another Horus before Guilliman can try doing fact-checked damage control. Thus spoke Roboute Guilliman in 41K. When he came out he was objectively a usurper. ‘That axe looks sharp enough to me, brother,’ said Guilliman. I believe this excerpt from Dawn of Fire: The Gate of Bones gives the clearest answer we've had so far. Theoretical, Guilliman thought savagely now, turning his anger against his traitorous mind. To be a regent of a monarchs is to have the exact authority rights and respect of that monarch in his or her stead. The Minotaurs can say what they want, if Guilliman wants them to charge into the Cicatrix Maledictum then they'll have to go, regardless of their opinion or whomever they think they report to. 138. In the new lore the Emperor didn't consider the Primarchs his sons but rather tools to be used and discarded. Tech-Priests have levels of machine-enforced autism that normal people simply can't match. I would tell Guilliman about what the High Lords of Terra did. By all accounts, the XIII Legion was one of the most effective measured by quantity of successful compliances. Guilliman seems to be adopting many of the mannerisms of Julius Caesar though. ’ He heard all these at once. Think about it, Guilliman was the only primarch. If the Emperor wins, it will most likely be close to how he won in the old lore - by Horus giving him an oppotunity because of distraction. Guilliman is channeling power from the Emperor but it’s fully possessed by him, so he still has limited information. The chance of them betraying now was very, very low. Perhaps he even had this fact in mind, and maybe that's the main reason RG had the statesmanship/political leader trait in…The Lion is loyal to the Emperor, and the Emperor told Guilliman to go and rebuild the Imperium. The Lion closes his eyes. Guilliman had seen the look on the priest’s face too many times on other holy men. Guilliman turned to look at Prayto. No random Rogue trader is gonna talk with. Guilliman stopped his walking and looked down at the woman. Guilliman seems to have been more flexible in his execution, allowing commanders of forces to dictate new tactics as necessary while he did the same with the forces he commanded directly. Sanguinius fell, he had the carry the Emperor back from the vengeful spirit, and his sons did the brunt of the line work on the walls. 0 like Horus. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grevious harm against the equilibrium of time and being. "Roboute Guilliman," the raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains down upon its worlds. Despite his injuries Dante demands to be taken. In Unremembered Empire, Guilliman is the lone Primarch in charge of Ultramar, blocked from Terra by the Ruinstorm. Guilliman confidently assumes that he, a primarch, will be of huge significance in the outcome of the war. ’ His voice softened further, becoming yet more human, and his heroic expression did not change exactly, but he somehow became more relatable. The Emperor's Sword is just a sweep attack weapon now and that feels similar to everyone else. In this, he would no doubt say he is merely following his father’s will. Guilliman cannot merely say that he fights for the Emperor or in His name. Obviously not wind back the clock to Guilliman’s age because it wouldn’t suit the model, but some sort of physical refresh. 15 votes, 14 comments. ADB said Abaddon defeated the Horus clone in the same way he would've beaten the true Horus: the clone was no weaker according to him (though he did allow for it being soulless) The reason why Abaddon wins is because that's the point of the scene: Abaddon usurps his father's mantle. He did not hear them at all. Out of all the Primarchs, the Emperor directly intervened to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor, this is said to be the only moment in which the Emperor directly interevne to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor and not the Illyrian tribes. He knows Cypher is not freeing him out of the kindness of his heart but is using Guilliman to his own ends. Remember Horus and Guilliman did get along, Horus looked up to Guilliman (and Dorn) as an older brother and valued his. The Lion is the literal son of the Emperor who lead a legion in the great crusade who's victory tally was second only to Horus and the Luna Wolves. So yeah, armywide 1 Ultramarines Strategum per turn for free. Was Roboute Guilliman the chosen heir to the Emperor?General Spoiler Warning to begin as the events. 7. Curze has the truth of it, but I was blinded by my anger. Hey everyone! Wolf Lord Rho here!Today we discuss the revelation of the Emperor's words to his son, the returned Roboute Guilliman. Guilliman has tried for over a decade to convince the Imperium and its leaders that the Emperor is not a god, with no success. Guilliman came back from something that should have killed him. Guilliman had no illusions. ‘I can never believe that,’ he said. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. That's why people see Him differently and interpret His words in different ways (like how the Custodes heard Him referring to the Primarchs as numbers, Land sees him as the Omnissiah, etc. Remember that Guilliman was revived on Macragge, far from Terra, and it was on Macragge that he learned about the past ten thousand years. ”. Guilliman reminded Helbrecht of the oaths he had sworn, and how his duty as High Marshal was to all the Emperor's realm rather than just being to his own personal vendettas. So Guilliman believes it is not the Emperor that creates Saints, but that their intense belief in the Emperor manifests latent psyker abilities. Meanwhile, the worlds that the Word Bearers were bringing in to the fold of the Imperium were brought in with minimal bloodshed, but it often took them decades to bring a single planet or system in. If the Emperor Himself stood up, thought Guilliman, came down off His golden throne and proclaimedRoboute Guilliman, the primarch of the Ultramarines, privately referred to Sanguinius as one of “The Dauntless Few,” the four of his brothers that Guilliman trusted most. Titus Prayto held his master’s stare and nodded confirmation. Life_South_907 Dark Angels • 1 yr. That being said, Custodes and Guilliman are in good terms, Guilliman has 10 Custodes, 3 terminators and 5 wardens (Custode veterans) and the second highest ranking Csutode as part of his body guards. ’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its. Secondly, when Mortarion almost kills Guilliman, Emperor literally possesses a girl to scatter the Daemons and save his only remaining loyal son. Apart from Faffnr, none of the Wolves had risen or shown any deference. ‘Guilliman is your father’s echo, heart and soul. His dad was a reformer that launched a military campaign in the barbaric region, got betrayed by his best friend and got stabbed to death. The emperor considers Guilliman his greatest achievement and hope for mankind. Thanks to MANSCAPED for sponsoring today's video! Get 20% OFF + Free International Shipping with my promo code "MAJORKILL" at meets the Emperor in 40k and is shocked when he understands that his "father" doesn't give two shits about his "son" returning. Guilliman, all his brothers, were nothing but a means to an end. The speculation is that Guilliman goes to talk with the Emperor, and emerges with the Emperors sword. The thought of being destroyed by Guilliman, of falling to the Emperor’s only living son, almost undid him. They were things. If all else went wong Guilliman would be heir to the empire. - Dark Imperium. Ruling over his own segment. Onlyindef. Mortarion was trying to pull all of ultramar into warp and needed to kill Guilliman by disease but he ended up calling to emperor who set fire to the garden. Thus, by definition, the Inquisition is his to command. Guilliman is NOT the Emperor and his "forgiveness" would be irrelevant. ‘I did not say I disapproved, Yassilli. He was overwhelming. It is unknown to any but Guilliman whether or not Guilliman actually had any communication with his father during his time in the throne room, but I say it didn't happen, maybe it was all in his head, and here is why: It is said that Lion El'Johnson, mortally wounded during his fight with Luther, was taken in secret by the Watchers in the Dark. The Primarch acceded to this demand, though it sat ill with his bleak inner mood. Perhaps him hearing the Emperor say “you were my tools” was just what Roboute thought all along, thus the illusion fit the image. By sacrificing their children to the Emperor’s service, they have earned a better life. Kristian1805 • 1 yr. Saving everyone from the domination of Chaos for. Business, Economics, and Finance. ’ He heard all these at once. A Space Marine fighting a Primarch by himself. I think there's a difference between channeling into a mind and making something's warp presence of your own image. 4. As any us would be, Guilliman is rightly upset having been. An Emperor who can still speak clearly and say something like "you will assume this title and do these tasks" is not an Emperor that Guilliman would renounce. The Emperor of the East Roman Empire who even though he tried could not restore the West. com In Dark Imperium it states that Guilliman did speak to the emperor telepathically and the emperor's mind has strengthened to completely new levels however he has lost his patience and humanity in the process, living as a consciousness in a rotten corpse for over 10,000 years would probably do that to you though so Guilliman continued his efforts to free his arm while he spoke. He kinda goes back and forth on it, he's mad because he feels the Emperor looks at him as a tool only to be used to achieve his own ends. ago IndySoccerFan25 SPOILER [Book Excerpt] [Dark Imperium: Plague War] Guilliman and Mortarion have a chat Guilliman and Mortarion finally come face to face, and have a nice chat after being reunited as long lost brothers. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. One more theory is that the Emperor was setting up for a civil war between the Primarchs as Malcador discussed in Malcador - The First Lord of the Imperium. LessRight Adeptus Mechanicus • 2 yr. A culture. ‘Father, I have returned. The Emperor's vision for humanity died the second Magnus 'I didn't do nuffin wrong' the Red fucked the webway project. Probably Magnus kills him, but Guilliman pops back up and continues to inflict damage until he wins. Thematically, the shield is a good way to remind him that he's not the scalpel he once was. After venting his initial fury on the Traitor forces arrayed against them, Guilliman took command of the planet’s defence and drove back the invaders with all the strategic brilliance for which he was renowned. There's a reason that famous painting of the Emperor confronting Horus on the Vengeful Spirit has three central figures, and the body of Sanguinius is one of them. No, at no point did the Emperor intend humanity to move en masse into the Webway. Option 2: After 10k years of being tortured by a glorified toilet seat, He's got no time to lose on being nice and shit and Guilliman thinking "He must've always. Guilliman had no illusions. That is not to say that the Emperor wasn't always strong. Marius was a great general but it was his reforms to the legions that had the most impact. Believe Rumors about the Indomitus-Crusade and Guilliman just being Propaganda. Credits:Rowboat Girlyman art by Adrián Prado: Divina by. You cannot give up on one without giving up on the other. Guilliman looked to the book. Still new to the lore, sorry for my ignorance. Sorrow suffused everything. During Roboute's absence, Konor Guilliman's co-consul, a man name Gallan, had unleashed a coup d'etat against Konor -- a development far from unknown historically, if in this instance a surprise. Guilliman's characterization, as well as the subtlty of his realizations about his father, seemed highly inconsistent with their portrayal in Dark Imperium. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. ” Rogal: “The child has the features of Roboute, yet is quite clumsy. Essentially, he's basically in control of the entire Imperium. However, it means the Emperor doesn't get the same unconditional obedience he gets from Russ, Dorn etc. The Custodians' captain-general gave it to him; Guilliman did not begrudge the priest his awe. Out of all the Primarchs, the Emperor directly intervened to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor, this is said to be the only moment in which the Emperor directly interevne to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor and not the Illyrian tribes. When the blade had been presented to Guilliman by the captain-general of the Adeptus Custodes after the Emperor’s fall, it had somehow fitted his primarch’s stature. The Imperial Regent cannot command the Custodes they dont answer to the emperor, they answer to the Emperor of Mankind. The prior Ecclesiarch tried to lead a coup against him. At the same time, he's growing more and more unsure that the Emperor ISN'T a. The Emperor’s words burned him. And don't forget how "Lord Guilliman" is actually a title that the commander of all Imperium forces held until the War of the Beast. Though he knew that openly purging them for no legal reason other than “I ordered you to” would likely start a civil war even bigger and more destructive than the Horus Heresy. Guilliman sent a message to Sanguinius as he approached the Sol System. Guilliman is loyal to the idea of human civilization and progress, not the Emperor himself. ’ A blasphemy intended to provoke the priest. Guilliman literally had an empire. His Primarchs were weapons, that was all. This marksbthe beginning ofbthe Plague Wars. - Dark Imperium. +++I am an early prototype mechanicus construct. No bad blood, just “thank god, someone competent to. Inspired and masterminded by the return of the legendary Primarch, the Ultramar Campaign was soon won, with the resurgent Imperial. The Eldar, back before the Fall, were slavers. Euten had told Guilliman that street hawkers and vendors were doing a brisk trade in cheap icons and tin badges displaying the iconography of the First Legion. Guilliman, all his brothers, were nothing but a means to an end. Here's Guilliman, last of the Primarchs - that aren't dead, disappeared or turned into puppets of the Four. CryptoYou say that, but he goes out of his way to protect Guilliman, both in 30k and after Guilliman’s revival. 'Guilliman. NONE of this is to say Guilliman is a bad person. Put simply: Guilliman does not believe in cultural relativism. May 10 2022 Advertisement Let’s talk about how Guiliman plans to destroy his father’s Imperium. Guilliman was clad in a magnifcent new suit of armour, an ornate masterwork that had travelled all the way. Guilliman stopped his walking and looked down at the woman. The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. From the epic brother vs. The galaxy is turning on its head. He was not the man who brought. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. I think this is a cool scene because you have a human Imperial arguing against the Emperor being a God which is very rare imo. Kor Phaeron’s narrow lips moulded into a grimace, opposing his primarch’s smirk. ago. When the blade had been presented to Guilliman by the captain-general of the Adeptus Custodes after the Emperor’s fall, it had somehow fitted his primarch’s stature. The Emperor's light was blinding, all encompassing, but finally - finally - Guilliman had seen it as a whole. The emperor also gave Roboute Guilliman permission to still expand Ultramar because Roboute Guilliman sold him on the vision of his legion and how it was going to work even if he did have minor disagreements with the emperor which he did from the beginning they both handled it like adults. Guilliman stated that his time on the throne made him "lose his subtlety", so instead of seeing the Emperor however he used to see him telling him he was a good boy, he got a painful light accidentally letting slip that he doesn't really care about him as a person. A lot of people believe that the Lion will start a civil war against Guilliman after waking up and seeing what the Imperium has become. They made sure they left their conquered worlds. I gave everything I had to you, to them. The final battle of the war took place here, with Guilliman and Mortarion fighting each other to a standstill amongst the ruins of Iax. I wonder if, when the time is right, Emperor would ‘rejuvenate’ Lion in a similar fashion. ’Theoretical, Guilliman thought savagely now, turning his anger against his traitorous mind. This is the first time in 9000 years that someone with working legs has actually outranked an Inquisitor Lord. Quel Tarin · 3/3/2021. Plot summary of Gathering Storm I: Fall of Cadia. He doesn't have the time to focus on the. In the wiki, this is described quite briefly: Guilliman was left standing alone before the ornate doorway, dwarfed by its immensity. The family looked at Guilliman, then back on screen, then again at Guilliman, the back at the screen. He judges human societies in an absolute sense measured against the ideals of the Emperor and himself. ''I cannot say, my lord,' said Valdor. As said in the OP, Leman Russ is the Emperor's executioner. Told Nurgle to piss off when orders to retreat came in and exposed nurgles realm to attack from the emperor. As any us would be, Guilliman is rightly upset having been lied to and feels used and betrayed. Meanwhile, the worlds that the Word Bearers were bringing in to the fold of the Imperium were brought in with minimal bloodshed, but it often took them decades to bring a single planet or system in. Couple this with him having a hard time. There was great warpcraft in the weapon. So guilliman could be wearing what he sees has a super nice robe, which for us would be like wearing a really fancy suit. Inspired and masterminded by the return of the legendary Primarch, the Ultramar Campaign was soon won, with the resurgent. The Emperor's power surges to revive Guilliman the surge of "holy" power actually burns a section of the realm of Nurgle, ie. Advertisement. They were things. He kinda goes back and forth on it, he's mad because he feels the Emperor looks at him as a tool only to be used to achieve his own ends. To save his brothers, to kill them. Why would Guilliman's political enemies say that the God Emperor ordered Guilliman to nuke an emptied temple-city, when they can say that Guilliman nuked a temple-city of the God Emperor? If they time the announcement right, half the Imperium could be ready to overthrow another Horus before Guilliman can try doing fact-checked damage control. They are still a part of the Emperor's glorious Angels of Death :) ReplyYou say that the remaining legions were all exemplary, but the problem is many of the traitor legions were also exemplary before the heresy, such as the Luna wolves and the EC, so how do you handle the risk that a exemplary chapter CAN go off the rails. Blacksheep045 • 5 yr. Like his “brothers,” Roboute was taken as an infant by the powers of Chaos, and removed to a far-flung world in an effort to prevent the coming Age of the Imperium. 21. ’ ‘Fight me, you coward,’ growled Guilliman. '. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. The former worlds of the Realm of Ultramar didn't want to have to give up their independence to Guilliman after 10,000 years of not having him. Too late, the Neverborn understood the danger it was in, and tried to flee. The Lion needs the reminder. genteel_wherewithal • 4 yr. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. Guilliman, all his brothers, were nothing but a means to an end. Glaring whiteness blazed from the crevasses. You could argue that Guilliman, Lion and Russ could distract Horus enough for the emperor to make a deadly blow. The Lion spent centuries leading 100000 or more marines and their component fleet elements. And now Guilliman lives in his greatest fear: a corrupt, superstitious, tyrannical Imperium. Everyone else may have had more actual power, but not as much authority. ’ ‘Thief. There's no such thing as a "better strategist" in a universal/overall capacity because different elements require different capacities, which. 000) the User's Guide for Roboute Guilliman; english isn't my first language; Character Study; Summary. The Emperor did not love His sons. The viral zephyrs would cling to the planet for a time before finally feasting upon itself and dissipating, transforming a planet of little life to one of absolutely none. - Dark Imperium. He does acknowledge that some might see his actions as traitorous to the Imperium, but his goal was saving. Yes if I remember correctly there's a brief passage in the Dark imperium series where he ponders the location of his brothers. We know Guilliman was impressed enough with Perturabo's siege terminator tactics in particular to emulate them and seek to refine them with his Fulmentarus squads. Hes an example of the failing hero (well relatively) and how even the greatest of us cannot withstand the tide of time and stop the fall of Empire.